They're not voting because...
- The Anti-Social Behaviour Orders (ASBO...
The Anti-Social Behaviour Orders (ASBO's) have gone some way to giving power to a community to comabat a whole number of nuisances. When are we going to get to the root problem of Anti-Social behaviour? Discipline. Teachers, Fire Brigade, Police Officers..the list goes on. Children no longer respect anyone...not even their parents.written 12th Apr 2005
jb replies: another question.... do their Parents actually respect anyone either?written 12th Apr 2005
SW replies: It's true that the lack of social conscience has become more widespread over the years and I fear this is only going to get worse as people get more disillusioned with politics in general and decide to do things "their own way". Sadly there isn't a party who seem to have even recognised this problem of social conscience - they'd all rather break it down into individual little soundbites to grab a select few votes.written 12th Apr 2005
Bri replies: Ususally not...I refer to a case in Scotland. An MSP was in her constiuency and was being heckled by chavs/neds gesturing and shouting in front of the camera. One little tyke was named and shamed by a paper who contacted the family. Their response was beyond belief. The mother of said ruffian actually said she would punch this MSP in the face(or something along these lines)!?!? I dont get it. They should be put down.written 12th Apr 2005
Bri replies: My reply above is in response to the first response. Not yours SW. ;o)written 12th Apr 2005
jb replies: I'm not even sure we should use the term 'social conscience' in relation to many people walking the streets today,,,,
The problem is far far deeper than that, they are the result of a society that in effect rewards you for doing nothing if you so choose.
Yes - you won't ever be wealthy,
but if you have low aspirations then the state is quite happy to support your quest for doing nothing......
sick of it.written 12th Apr 2005
Azriphale replies: But "there is no such thing as society"! For those too young to remember this is a Thatcherism.
Oh and while we are on the subject of social conscience, don't you think you have a social responsibilty to vote?written 13th Apr 2005
Gavin replies: Right-wing politics are hardly the cause of this. Being able to have a perfectly comfortable lifestyle without having to work is a socialist thing. People who have no choice should be supported. People who just cannot be bothered should not.
I think the parties all recognise the problem, but it's very, very difficult to solve - at least without causing a lot of suffering to those who do not deserve it. Ultimately, children are the problem. Society feels it is appropriate to care for the innocent, so all you have to do is have a baby if times are hard and you'll be supported. Of course, life is generally still very tough for poor parents, which is not good - but if you make it too easy then even more people would choose that option. It's really not an easy problem to solve.written 14th Apr 2005