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It's not my country any more

I refuse to endorse the gang of traitors who turned my homeland into a police state while simultaneously allowing it to be colonised by the dregs of Africa Asia and Eastern Europe. This election has seem third world political practices to match the third world public services; postal votes are stolen by the sackful and politicians grandstand with the troops abroad while reducing them to the status of badly funded re-enactment society. The poor veterans of Hitler's war are robbed and battered to death in their own homes for the sake of their meagre pension while the police run around arresting people for alleged 'racist remarks' and seizing home computers in this so-called democracy and the only certainty is that taxes WILL go up just as soon as the election is over. They don't even try to deny it any more!

written 5th May 2005

Responses

PJ replies: You racist wanker

written 5th May 2005

SM replies: If it's not "your" country any more, why don't you fuck off to an island somewhere and set up an all-white community of paranoid fuck-wits? You fuck wit.

written 5th May 2005

Al replies: PJ & SM;

Couldn't agree more with your outburst.

Original Poster;

Your right this isn't your country, don't bother voting, just get your coat and leave. 99% of the population would say your a racist tosser and we don't want you here so your right, it's not your country anymore.

written 5th May 2005

Brentwood Resident replies: I agree with this man/woman. We Brits were never asked if we wanted OUR country to become a foreign land. It is called democracy - an alien concept to you left-wing traitorous bastards.

If you oppose the 'Right-wing' then why don't YOU go and live in the perfect Communist utopia of North Korea and see how long you will last before starving to death?

If you have a BNP candidate today, then vote BNP. KEEP BRITAIN BRITISH!!

written 5th May 2005

Max replies: In answer to "Brentwood Resident", Right wing and Left wing, are wings of the same bird--and both broken.

written 5th May 2005

Max replies: In answer to "Brentwood Resident", Right wing and Left wing, are wings of the same bird--and both broken.

written 5th May 2005

Max replies: In answer to "Brentwood Resident", Right wing and Left wing, are wings of the same bird--and both broken.

written 5th May 2005

Max replies: In answer to "Brentwood Resident", Right wing and Left wing, are wings of the same bird--and both broken.

written 5th May 2005

Al replies: Max; I didn't understand your point the first, second, third or fourth time.

Brentwood Resident: theirs a middle ground between communist and facist, that's where the majority of this country stand.

Point being, if you don't like this country, leave, for the most part, I do. The multi-cultural society I live in is something that makes me proud of my country, the BNP is something for this country to be ashamed of, what you don't seem to understand when you rant on about democracy is that most people in this country don't share your beliefs.

If direct democracy was imposed and everyone was asked, 'should we throw these immigrant out of the country?' This country would say no!

If the country was asked 'should we throw the BNP out and all of it's supporters?' you probably wouldn't fair too well.

written 5th May 2005

cinsky replies: Ok, bored of flag-waving knee-jerk patriot idiots that are so arrogant they lay claim to a whole country just because their parents fcked here once and spawned them.

written 5th May 2005

Al replies: Are you putting me in that category?

written 5th May 2005

cinsky replies: AL...judging by your posts you shouldn't need to ask. But since you do...no, i meant brentwood and the original poster.

written 5th May 2005

Tiger43 replies: To A1.....Trouble is, if you say what you have just said that if you don`t like it here then leave to someone, you might get a coherent reply back, however if its said to one of our friends of the ethnic minorities, your`e immediately called a racist.

Thats how things are at the moment. Anyone who is not of any of the ethnic minorities have to be dead careful what they say for the above reasons. Unfortunately it doesn`t work both ways.

written 5th May 2005

Al replies: Tiger; Ok, I see your point there.

I'll make my statement broader.

If you don't like the multicultural society, irrespective of your country of origin/background, fuck off!

You can't suggest that it's a racist comment because I've aimed it at everyone. Nobody's singled out.

written 5th May 2005

Lee S replies: Brentwood Resident ur right u cant move for fuckin foraners in this country. Vote BNP!!!!!

They own every corner shop in britan and they smell.

This is our country, it's4 proper white people. I don't wanna have 2 queue with pakies when im picking up my rainbow beef from the chinky, an their even serving behind the counter as well, taking english jobs as usuall!!

Vote BNP!!

written 5th May 2005

cinsky replies: *cinsky rolls his eyes as lee takes the joke too far*

Al: "AL...judging by your posts you shouldn't need to ask" = your posts are well thought out and i fully agree!

written 5th May 2005

Al replies: Lets call that a 50% approval rating *Al winks*

written 5th May 2005

MG replies: Al, whilst I agree with several of your points namely that there is a middle ground and that a multi-cultural society is one to be proud of, I am not so sure that I agree with your assertion as to the majority's view. If asked, most people would probably say 'No' to expelling immigrants, although I do not believe that this would be a fair reflection of the majority of this countrys hard working tax payers or pensioners views. It is more a reflection of the fact that we now live in a society where openly expressing views that do not conform to what has been deemed politically correct, by a vociferous minority, is frowned upon and, as such, individuals feel increasingly unable to voice their opinions for fear of retribution. Instead, they simmer on what they feel to be wrong and unjust, which in turn provides fuel and ammunition for the extremist parties.

The issue of immigration is one that is important to a significant proportion of this country and one that in my opinion needs to be addressed. Only by implementing robust controls over immigration, which curbs the inflow of those that do not/will never contribute to our society whilst accepting and actively encouraging those that will, will we be able to address this situation.

written 5th May 2005

Al replies: Yes, but I the question wasn't 'do you think we should reduce the number of people coming into the country?', the question was asking whether people that have moved here from other countries should be thown out. On that question the majority would answer no.

I agree immigration needs to be controlled and probably differently to the way it's done at the moment.

written 5th May 2005

MG replies: Al... in that case, the response to your question will depend upon what the person in this country is contributing. If they are law abiding and contribute to society then you are right, most people would not want them thrown out. If on the other hand they were found to be fraudulently claiming benefit, working on the black market and therfore not paying their dues or actively involved in crime, then I disagree, as I think the majority of people would be in favour of deportation. Why as a nation would we want to keep and support such undesirables?

written 5th May 2005

Arthur Wilson replies: The logic and methodolgy of immigration needs to be changed.

There should be much more emphasis on the stability and cohesive nature of Britain.
That means more focus being placed on compatable immagrants. People who will become part of an integrated and cohesive society.
I would include in that - Eastern Europeans, West Indians, Other Europeans, English speaking countries.
I would not encourage peoples from the Indian sub continent. There is clear and ample evidence (almost three generations) that peoples from this region have no wish to become part of Britain. They wish to retain their own culture, language etc. Living in sepperate and closed communities.

This is not compatible with cohesion.

written 5th May 2005

Andy Kerr replies: In answer to the question from MG.
Yes I would have no problem in deportation of people:
1) they have broken ANY law and are citizens of a seperate country.
2) are breaking ANY rules of their asylum.
3) Asylum seekers should be retained in a seccure environment with no benefits - they should be processed within 24 hrs and a decision made. If there is any doubt in the matter then their claim should be rejected.
4) Anyone who has entered the country illegially and have had their asylum claim rejected - they should be deported immidiately back to the third party nation they came from (France, etc).
No asylum claims should be accepted from anyone entering the country by any means other than through the embassies or the UN.
5) All ecconomic migrants should be assesed by a clear and non-negociable points system. What they can do and do we need it.

written 5th May 2005

cinsky replies: *Sweeping Generalisation Alert*

written 5th May 2005

Andy Kerr replies: cinsky - nice little smart arsed comment. Perhaps you could fill it out.

written 5th May 2005

Bengali Brit Living in USA replies: I don't get this. There is no country in the world that is "pure". Britain was invaded by Vikings and Normans - and slowly infiltrated by Irish and many other ethnicities since. Most Brits are a mix of different races. Every country in the world is like this. In the longer history of the world, it is and impossible to identify a pure racially based country. This is what makes the world stronger. Anyone who doesn't get this is just plain ignorant.

written 5th May 2005

arthur Wilson replies: Who mentioned racial purity?
The discussion is about immigration and the nature of national identity. You describe yourself as a Bengali Brit. If the Bengali part is so important to you why aren't you working there?

written 5th May 2005

cinsky replies: andy kerr, all is revealed when you realise the smart arsed comment is aimed at arthur wilson's "all indian people are..."

written 5th May 2005

Andy Kerr replies: Oh I see.
It might be a sweeping generalisation but it does have an element of truth from the point of view of a white brit living next to a small Asian town in the North.

written 5th May 2005

original poster replies: FYI we emigrated to a multiracial, but NOT multicultural land. We have the good grace not to demand the city builds a village green to play cricket on, or the Queen's English be taught in local schools. Nor do we get "offended" by our host nation's customs and instituions or demand preferential treatment in public services. There are around 400 British ex-pats also here in a town of 10,000 but we don't have our own ghetto............

SM, PJ and Al are prime examples of why we did leave the country, and why we won't be back!

Dare to speak the truth and you get a storm of abuse and denounced as "racist" (apparently the 21st century version of "heretic") from the know-nothings - not one reasoned argument in defence of their failed multicultural socialist utopia....they cannot disprove what I've said, so they resort to pesonal attacks 'the last refuge of a scoundrel'. This makes them no better than the self serving party hacks who have sold Britain down the river.

Think I'll go out and have a cold beer by the pool now.

written 5th May 2005

Tim replies: Original poster: Ah, isn't that the real reason for leaving - wheather. Hope you are enjoying the sun and beer by the pool. perhaps you also have much better quality of life there and higher income.

written 5th May 2005

Al replies: Well now I realize you don't live in this country, that's fine, theirs no need for further arguement.

Enjoy your beer.

written 5th May 2005

cinsky replies: Original poster, i KNOW you're sitting by your pool right now in your union jack shorts, beer belly and Daily Mail. The nearest you get to integration is drinking the local San Sol beer. Don't lie...you are..aren't you....arrrrrrrn't you?

Remember you too are an immigrant.

written 5th May 2005

original poster replies: Well the climate IS a bonus, and the doc did advise moving to a warmer dry climate but the real overriding reason (apart from crime)is money; We cannot afford to live on our pensions in the UK. Mine is a war disability while my wife just retired from NHS nursing and while Bliar and Brown have taxed us out of sight, we remember only too well being in negative equity under Howard's crew last time. Never again!

So we really don't have a horse in this race.

Yes, we ae immigrants too, which is why we must adapt to the local laws and customs and not expect them to change for our benefit, unlike so many who flock to GB. This is an important difference which those who cry 'racist' fail to grasp. Actually we have black neigbours here!

I'll own up to the belly but not the beer (I like Keystone ice, but it's not exactly local); I don't own anything with a Union Jack on, let alone underwear. I don't read any UK newspapers, they are far too depressing!

written 5th May 2005

Janet replies: Perhaps you have all been all these different colours and nationalities in previous incarnations? Perhaps there is no such thing as time and we are all just one giant hologram and part of each other in the great now? Have you read Michael Talbot's 'Holographic Universe'? If not give it a try, it might change your perspective on things. Love and Peace!

written 5th May 2005

Tiger43 replies: All I`m saying is, if your`e white, you have to be very careful what you say in case your`e branded rascist. If I`m one the ethnic minorities and I say the same thing, then its probably just fine. Thats what really makes me angry.

written 6th May 2005

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